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The "biggest" conforming
cartridge should fit in the "smallest" conforming gun. This fit is
controlled by headspace. We want the cartridge to fit sort of closely in
the chamber of the gun, else accuracy may suffer and perhaps there is
danger of powder gasses blowing back through the action.
"Headspace" is a word with a
number of slightly different meanings, all centering around the fit of the
cartridge in the gun.
Here's the SAAMI (Sporting
Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute) definition:
HEADSPACE: The distance from the face of the
closed breech of a firearm to the surface in the chamber on which the
cartridge case seats.
"Headspace " is sometimes
used to describe the distance from the closed breech of the gun to the
head of the cartridge, a few thousandths of an inch.
"Headspace" is also used to
describe the dimension from a datum point on the cartridge to the base of
the cartridge, as measured with a cartridge headspace gage. Sometimes
known as "cartridge headspace"
"Headspace" takes on the
guise of a verb: "The 30/30 cartridge HEADSPACES on the rim."
Headspace is the distance
from the breech face of the gun to either:
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the forward surface of the rim in rimmed
cartridges, or
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the forward surface of the belt, in belted
cartridges, or
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the case mouth, in straight cartridges, or
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a point on the shoulder, in shouldered cartridges.
Other rimmed cases include
the 38 Special, 357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, 30/40 Krag, 303 British and 45/70.
Other belted cases include
the 300 H&H Magnum, 7MM Remington Magnum and 375 H&H Magnum.
Other straight cases
head-spacing on the case mouth include the 45ACP, 9MM Parabellum, 32 ACP
and 380 ACP.
Other cases head-spacing on the shoulder include the
308 Winchester, 243 Winchester, 257 Roberts, 8 MM Mauser and 35 Whelan.
The headspace of a gun is
measured with headspace gauges which come in sets of two (GO and NO GO) or
sets of three (GO, FIELD, NO GO).
Headspace of fired
cartridges that headspace on the shoulder is measured with a cartridge
headspace gauge. I think that what we're doing here is measuring the fired
case to get an idea of how the gun chamber is dimensioned.
Headspace of a gun-cartridge
combination can be measured easily and cheaply by placing different
thicknesses of shims, paper or ?, on the breech face, chambering the
cartridge and feeling the force required to close the action.
As an example, the headspace
of a Springfield 1903 rifle can be checked/measured as follows:
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1) Remove the firing pin.
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2) Chamber a once-fired-with-a-full-load cartridge,
noting the force required to close the bolt. A cartridge fired with a
full load will expand to fit the chamber.
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3) Measure the thickness of a piece of paper and
put a small piece, covering the bolt face, on the bolt face.
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4) Chamber the cartridge, noting the force required
to close the bolt.
Add another piece of paper to the bolt face.
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5) Chamber the cartridge, noting the force required
to close the bolt.
Try combinations of onion
skin, aluminum foil, different kinds of paper and cellophane until a
combination of shims makes it impossible to close the bolt using
reasonable force. You can always close the bolt, we're talking about
reasonable force. I close the bolt with my thumb only, and can easily tell
the difference between one and two pieces of paper for shims.
The paper I use with my
computer is ~.004", and if I can't close the bolt on two thicknesses of
this paper, I think the headspace is O.K. If I CAN close the bolt on two
thicknesses of this paper, it is time to have a qualified gunsmith look at
the rifle.
I can measure the headspace
of Contender pistols (remove the extractor), rolling block and falling
block and Martini rifles, and some auto-loading pistols by fiddling with
shims and the gun and a new cartridge.
I have had trouble with
Remington rifles because I don't have the gizmo to remove the firing pin.
I think that you need to have the firing pin out of the gun to be safe and
"feel" the action close.
When the headspace is .008"
or more, there may be trouble.
Some guns that headspace on
a belt or rim will show excess headspace with a new cartridge, but this
excess headspace goes away after the cartridge is shot. I think that
cartridges like the 30/30 in Contenders and single shot rifles blows out
and thereafter headspaces on the shoulder or case taper. One of the causes
of short case life due to splits and head separations is full length
resizing of such cases, forcing them to undergo excessive work hardening.
"Gunsmiths and factory
machinists are human. They can get tired and careless. I’ve seen factory
rifles with a 7x57 chamber and bore, but grooves for a .308 bullet. It
sometimes happens that chambers are mis-cut and end up deeper - sometimes
a LOT deeper - than they are supposed to be. If the case is supposed to
headspace on the case mouth or the shoulder, this can result in
dangerously excessive headspace. But oddly enough, such rifles are used
every day, and work fine. It seems that in such instances, the case is
prevented from going too deeply into the oversized chamber by the grip of
the extractor. In effect, the round effectively headspaces on the
extractor instead of the shoulder or case mouth as it was designed to do.
The same thing is sometimes seen with auto-loading pistols and rifles,
and other designs where the extractor engages before the case is
chambered. It is not uncommon, even with classics like the M98 Mauser.
There’s nothing particularly wrong with it, but you need to remove the
extractor (and firing pin) if you want to measure ‘real’ headspace in your
gun." Ken Mollohan
"To check the headspace
clearance on a bolt action rifle, I use this method:
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1) use a new case or completely pull down a
factory loaded round so that the case may be used.
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2) start new primer into case about 1/2 way.
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3) chamber the case by hand.
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4) close the bolt gently (this will not detonate
the primer).
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5) extract the case carefully.
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6) with a depth gauge measure the amount of
primer protrusion.
I have used this
method for years with satisfaction.
This method of headspace
clearance measurement is not as good as using a headspace gage because of
manufacturing tolerances of the brass, but it will show you any gross
dimensional problems and is certainly close enough to demonstrate the
benefits of fire formed cases." Norm Johnson
Shoulder Setback With Reduced Cast Bullet Loads.
Sometimes cases that
headspace on the shoulder will move the shoulder back and develop excess
cartridge headspace as they are shot with light cast bullet loads. I have
had this happen. I've had 30/06 cases where the shoulder moved back far
enough the cartridge went in the chamber so deeply that I started getting
misfires. I can't find my records on this, but I remember that it happened
when I was firing light loads in 30/06 with cast bullets, attempting to
learn how to shoot offhand. The wizards suggested I go up to 12? grains of
Unique, I did and it solved the problem. This in an Engels & Trolsch M98
target rifle.
Thanks to Paul Brasky for
asking why we care about this-I forgot to write it down.
If you're shooting light
loads and the headspace increases because the shoulder sets back, you may
get misfires and possibly accuracy suffers. This is a minor inconvenience.
Of more importance is the
possibility that you might reload some of these excess-cartridge-headspace
cartridge cases with full loads. Then the excess headspace might lead to a
case head separation and damage to the rifle and the shooter.
There are three theories on
how the shoulder is set back:
Some claim that the firing
pin fall drives the case forward, driving the shoulder back and increasing
headspace. Then when the cartridge fires the case expands, gripping the
chamber. This leaves the case with the shoulder pushed back, and excess
headspace.
I have twice fired one case
with ~20 oiled - new dead primers in rifles with the extractor removed,
and have not yet had the headspace increase. The firing pin didn't drive
the case forward.
On 11/16/06, I did this test
for the third time on the third gun, a Win M70 Target 30/06 Post 64 rifle.
I "killed" 26 CCI 250 Magnum primers with marvel mystery oil. (I did this
test at home, in the condo.)
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Put an empty fired case in the
gun.
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Removed the firing pin from
the bolt.
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The bolt closed easily on
the case.
Made a .004" copier paper
patch to fit the bolt face, put it on the bolt face, the bolt would not
close with a little pressure.
After testing and fiddling
and firing 26 primers in that one case, the bolt closed easily on the
fired case-wouldn't close with a little pressure with the paper patch on
the bolt face.
Others, including Tom Gray,
have increased headspace with the firing pin striking the primer, but I
can't and this is the third time I've done this test.
Some claim that the primer
explosion pushes the case forward, driving the shoulder back. The primer
and primer pocket act as a piston and cylinder, with the primer gas acting
on the forward surface of the primer pocket, around the flash hole. These
folks tell us that the problem can be solved by drilling out the flash
holes to a larger diameter, and keeping these cases for light loads only.
On 18 Nov., 2006 I took the
Win M70 30/06 Post 64 rifle and taped a 2 liter Pepsi bottle on the muzzle
to hold the noise down.
(TRK points out that taping
a Pepsi bottle to the muzzle of a rifle is against the law, that the BATFE
considers this "making a silencer" So don't do it, or you could end up in
jail. Or in hell. If any BATFE guy is reading this, it's all a lie, I
never did it. Don't drink Pepsi.. Had no tape.)
Put an empty fired case in
the gun.
Removed the firing pin from
the bolt.
The bolt closed easily on
the case.
Made a .004" copier paper
patch to fit the bolt face, put it on the bolt face, the bolt would not
close with a little pressure.
Firing pin in , CCI 250
Magnum primer in the pocket, in the gun, fired, a little pop.
Tried again with the paper
shim, no firing pin in the bolt. The bolt closed with no resistance. The
primer drove the case forward.
Fired four more primers,
made another .004" shim, both shims on the bolt face and the bolt closed
on the (primer-less) case with a little resistance.
In my guns, with my tests,
it's the primer driving the case forward, not the firing pin.
Mike in CO was kind enough
to give me a reference to "Handloading", NRA, 1981, William C. Davis Jr.
After the testing, another
reader scanned and sent "Reduced Loads", pages 113-115, by Mr. Davis. On
page 114 he states clearly that it is the primer firing that moves the
case forward and moves the shoulder back. My experiments agree with this.
Drilling the flash hole out
(#28 drill) fixed the problem for some folks. Here's why, I think.
A large primer pocket is
.210" diameter, area is .035"^2 (square inches).
Standard flash hole diameter
is .080", area is .005"^2.
#28 drill diameter is
.1405", area is .016"^2.
With a standard flash hole
the primer acts on .035-.005 = .030"^2.
With the flash hole drilled
#28, the primer acts on .035-.016 = .019"^2.
This change, we're told,
keeps the primer from driving the case forward, the shoulder back, and
increasing headspace.
"I shoot literally thousands of Lee TL314-90-SWCs, Hornady .314 swaged
lead, Speer .32 cal HBWCs over 2.7 to 3 gr of Bullseye in rimless case;
7.63x39, .308, 30-06 and 7.65 Argentine. I also have shot them in .30 Rem,
.300 Savage and 7.7 Jap (probably a couple more I'm not remembering). In
ALL instances, even with well fire formed cases, headspace of the case
decreased consistently with each firing. Misfires were most often not
encountered with controlled feed actions. However with push feed actions
misfires occur in as little as 3-5 firings. In every instance drilling of
the flash hole stopped the shoulder set back.
The exception is 7.62x39 with R-P cases using SR primers. I've yet to
experience shoulder set back with the load mentioned even after 50 firings
in a bolt action Mini Mk X rifle. But switch to IMI or W-W cases using LR
Primers and shoulder set back occurs just like other rimless cases using a
LR primer. "Larry Gibson
"I have also experienced
this shoulder setback with light loads in rimless cases My experience is
also that the primer pressure is the primary - but not the only - culprit:
I have seen this only in situations where the round and chamber dimensions
are such that the round chambers very freely, and there is some freebore
between the bullet ogive and the chamber leade.
It seems that substantial
pressure is developed within the primer pocket, which drives the case
forward and the primer backwards. The case is stopped by impacting the
chamber shoulder, while the primer is stopped by impacting the breech
face. Metal deformation results from both impacts: The shoulder of the
case is swaged back slightly, and the primer is slightly flattened against
the breech.
Now pressure from
combustion of the gunpowder begins to develop: In ‘normal’ rounds, this
pressure pushes the case head back over the primer, re-seating it in the
primer pocket, and reverses the shoulder setback just like blowing up a
balloon. Note that if the sides of the case do not have some slip against
the chamber walls, the process of pushing the case head back will
necessarily result in stretching and thinning the brass. This in turn
leads to case head separations and the need to trim cases occasionally.
However, many low
pressure loads do not generate sufficient force to push the case head
backwards over the primer. As a result, the shoulder swaging is not
reversed either, and the primer can be seen and felt to project slightly
above the head of the case. The amount of the primer protrusion is equal
to the effective headspace in the rifle / case combination. (Note that
many combinations actually headspace on the extractor grip on the groove,
not on the case shoulder as is usually assumed.) Shoulder setback is
easily prevented and or remedied by simply seating bullets out into firm
contact with the leade. In this situation the round effectively headspaces
on the bullet ogive, not the extractor groove or the shoulder. The case is
effectively immobilized between the bullet and the breech, with zero
headspace. The primer cannot move backwards, and the case - as a unit -
cannot move forwards. But the case shoulder is not in contact with the
chamber shoulder. Internal pressure of a moderate load can expand the case
shoulder to fill the chamber. This will correct any headspace issues with
that case and rifle combination." Kenneth
Mollohan
Some say that this shoulder
setback problem can be cured by leaving a little sizing lube on the
outside of the case. I've never tried this.
"I use Imperial Sizing
die wax and size just below the base of the gas check in my match loads.
Pressure is less than 24,000 CUP according to the load manuals. I have had
problems with the headspace reading of the case decreasing upon firing
with full length resizing and Winchester Large Rifle primers. This was
with a carefully cleaned and dried chamber and case.
Now I leave the case lube
on and the headspace stays consistent. My theory is that there is enough
internal pressure to keep the case pushed back against the bolt face. This
appears to have lessened flyers from my groups."
Ric Bowman
"Why remove the wax-based
sizing lube? I know, the liquid lube folks always say to remove their
product before reloading. However, here is my take on this issue: I avoid
liquid lubes and then leave the thin wax-lube coating alone.
Why remove wax?! I use
Lee Sizing Lube, which is a water/wax emulsion. It takes amazingly little
to make the brass just fly through that die, then I just load it. It is
not a semi-liquid that can build up in the chamber; rather, it dries into
a very thin coating that is integral with the case. Case head thrust?
That's no reason. Hell, our rifles are designed to handle that. High
pressure? If you play with QuickLOAD, you'll find that your favorite
target loads are, mostly, in the 5-15 Kpsi range and most listed hunting
loads are in the 10-20 Kpsi range. Noooo praaaaab-lem.
The thing that makes the
Lee stuff work best is to size right after putting the stuff on (i.e.,
don't let the water evaporate out of the emulsion prior to sizing the
case). You can buy it by the case from Midway. If you do, do NOT store it
out in the garage, unless you live in Florida, given that freezing
temperature makes it tend to separate a bit. Keep them stored in the
house. Soooo, I put on only as much as necessary (veeeeery little), size
the case, then skip the wipe-off step. I figure that there are other more
important things to focus on, as follows.
One trick that I just
learned from Mic McPherson's excellent book
Accurizing The Factory Rifle
(available from Precision Shooting Magazine) is that one
should either have the sizer die backed off to just get the first 1/4" or
so of the case neck or should have it come down hard on the shellholder.
The problem is that these are the only two setups that guarantee a uniform
headspace (no change, for the first one, or the same headspace on each
case, for the latter).
If the case shoulder is
partially sized back, the springiness of the case, die, and press will
cause the ACTUAL headspace to vary as much as 0.020", from case to case.
Redding sells "high" shellholders in steps of from +0.002" to 0.010",
allowing one to eliminate over-sizing (from a too-short die). Mic uses a
little tape trick (described in the book) to determine which such
high-holder is just riot for a given rifle/sizer-die combo."
Ed Wosika
There's a third theory on
this shoulder setback; that neck sizing in a rough sizing die may set the
shoulder back. See below and also Ed Wosika's comments above.
NV
Curmudgeon on Cast Boolits writes: "Let
me tell you what I found by empirical means. I have a re-barreled Ruger 77
in .35 Whelen. There is never a bit of case fit trouble when firing full
power loads. I use full power cases until I am bored with them. Using my
standard CB load of 20.0 X 2400 and a 213 gr. (actual weight) NEI 220358
boolit at a mv of 1700 fps, and PARTIAL FULL-LENGTH SIZING, I begin having
misfires around the tenth firing. This occurs with either Rem. .35 Whelen
cases or cases formed from Rem. .270s. The Wilson case gauge then shows a
reduction in head to datum line measurement. I next bought a Redding
(real) neck sizing die. So far the group of cases that I am watching are
still sure-fire after 17 firings. My wild guess is that the partial
full-length sized, low pressure loaded, cases are not obturating as well
as desired, and that the P.F.L.S. is exacerbating the situation by very
gradually setting back the shoulder."
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